Obama supporters seem to think he was lying about same sex marriage

Debra Saunders:

Gay civil rights groups -- the Human Rights Campaign and the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force -- are calling on President-elect Barack Obama to yank his invitation to Saddleback Church pastor Rick Warren to give the inaugural prayer on Jan. 20. They demand tolerance from others, but won't spare any for those with whom they disagree. Unless of course, that person is Obama, who, like Warren, opposes same-sex marriage. Then they get real ecumenical. Not to mention, very forgetful.

"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian -- for me as a Christian -- it is also a sacred union," Obama said at a presidential candidate forum at the Saddleback Church in August. Obama could not make his opposition to same-sex marriage clearer.

It's true that Obama opposed Proposition 8, the same-sex marriage ban approved by California voters in November, on the grounds that codifying a same-sex ban would be "divisive" -- whereas Warren endorsed the measure.

Obama supports civil unions -- "I think my faith is strong enough and my marriage is strong enough that I can afford those civil rights to others, even if I have a different perspective or a different view," Obama explained. Warren spokesperson Kristin Cole told me that Warren "is OK on civil unions, but does not believe in redefining marriage."

Then why are gay leaders applauding the election of Obama, while calling on him to exclude the participation of the Warren? It makes no sense -- unless they had convinced themselves that Obama did not mean it when he said he opposed same-sex marriage. As long as they think he lied, he still can be their hero.

Because Warren clearly meant what he said, he's a villain. Forget the campaign Warren began to organize 1 billion Christians to fight global poverty and scourges like AIDS. Ignore the countless children he has helped save. Think only of the feelings he has wounded.

In the modern world, words speak louder than actions. And there is always an incriminating video clip out there.

In that spirit, the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force cited an interview Warren gave on beliefnet.com and charged that Warren went "so far as to equate the marriages between same-sex couples with incest and pedophilia."

Warren did say, "I'm opposed to the re-definition of a 5,000 year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to a having brother and sister be together and call that a marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that a marriage."

Is that equating same-sex marriage with incest and pedophilia? If it you want it to, sure. Or you could see the quote as proof that Warren holds traditional religious views -- and cut the guy some slack.

You know, show tolerance while seeking tolerance.

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Why is it considered divisive to support your position with a ballot initiative? Why wasn't it divisive for the California court to overturn 5000 years of tradition as well as the current law? The Obama argument appears circular. But the really ridiculous part is that his supporters think he is just lying about same sex marriage anyway. They must think he would not have been elected if he told the truth, which suggest that they don't have a majority on their side anyway.

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  1. all this issue is about is a minority group trying to instill their will against what the majority of people want in a democracy. If you don't want to live within the confines of a democratic society them by all means... leave!
    If you are successful in your endeavor, that means every wild and crazy, such as Jim Jones could get their wild and crazy ideology installed in our society. In a democracy, you have to allow the majority to rule and trust that overall it will turn out for the best for the most people. Realizing that it will never be perfect for everyone. And no, I have not worn your shoes in certain issues in your life, but you have not worn my shoes in all the issues that I have to deal with in my life either. I have a debilitating disease that is in the process of crippling me. If I am forced to wear your shoes why shouldn't you be forced to wear mine?

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