It took multiple waterboarding to break some al Qaeda

Scott Shane:

C.I.A. interrogators used waterboarding, the near-drowning technique that top Obama administration officials have described as illegal torture, 266 times on two key prisoners from Al Qaeda, far more than had been previously reported.

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The fact that waterboarding was repeated so many times may raise questions about its effectiveness, as well as about assertions by Bush administration officials that their methods were used under strict guidelines.

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I think the fact that it took repeated application suggest that it was not nearly as scary for the al Qaeda operatives as it critics have alleged. We know it is not life threatening because we still use it in training some of our own operatives.

I would have a simple test for what constitute torture. If it is something that we use in training our own people it is not torture. That would include sleep deprivation, and stress positions. By the definitions used by some in the media, football practice is torture.

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  1. Reaganite Independent2:41 PM

    Waterboarding?
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    If the tables were turned, this 7th-century savage would have been chopping our heads off while making a video of it.
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    Water boarding is not a near-drowning technique. The subject is never in danger of drowning. And water boarding is not torture… there is no physical harm to the subject.
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    Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed is a bad guy, and US interrigators obtained valuable info from him using this technique- who cares how many times it took? It was up to him how long before he decided to cooperate, didn’t have to be this way necessarily- apparently he clung stubbornly to a bad decision, sounds like something he’d do.
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  2. Reaganite Independent2:43 PM

    Waterboarding?
    -
    If the tables were turned, this 7th-century savage would have been chopping our heads off while making a video of it.
    -
    Water boarding is not a near-drowning technique. The subject is never in danger of drowning. And water boarding is not torture… there is no physical harm to the subject.
    -
    Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed is a bad guy, and US interrigators obtained valuable info from him using this technique- who cares how many times it took? It was up to him how long before he decided to cooperate, didn’t have to be this way necessarily- apparently he clung stubbornly to a bad decision, sounds like something he’d do.

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